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 Topic: Correct definition of ephebophilia?

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Posted: 12 Apr 2007, 5:19 am    Post subject: Correct definition of ephebophilia? Reply with quote

Hulloo.
My first post, and I find myself slightly embarrassed to be suggesting an definition amendment to such learned folks.
Doing a little research after a discussion, and googled my way here.
The glbtq definition of ephebophilia seems at odds with the most common opinion that it relates to both sexes rather than one. An adult's desire to have a sexual relationship with an individual who has reached puberty, but not the age of legal consent.
I found ephebophilia mentioned under 'lolita complex' and 'lolicon', a Japanese term apparently used to describe not only someone with a desire for girls under the age of consent, but also the object of that desire.
Also, a great disparity in age of the individuals, is not necessarily a function of the word, but is perhaps included in the definition due to the perceptions of the translator. ;-)



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Posted: 12 Apr 2007, 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Correct definition of ephebophilia? Reply with quote

Dear Hueyy,

Thanks for the posting.

The term ephebophilia was coined to refer to males, using Latin masculine forms. Ephebe (Latin, from the Greek ephebos) is a male youth. However, if it has been used more broadly, perhaps our definition should reflect that broader application.

Claude



hueyy wrote:
Hulloo.
My first post, and I find myself slightly embarrassed to be suggesting an definition amendment to such learned folks.
Doing a little research after a discussion, and googled my way here.
The glbtq definition of ephebophilia seems at odds with the most common opinion that it relates to both sexes rather than one. An adult's desire to have a sexual relationship with an individual who has reached puberty, but not the age of legal consent.
I found ephebophilia mentioned under 'lolita complex' and 'lolicon', a Japanese term apparently used to describe not only someone with a desire for girls under the age of consent, but also the object of that desire.
Also, a great disparity in age of the individuals, is not necessarily a function of the word, but is perhaps included in the definition due to the perceptions of the translator. ;-)



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hueyy  



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Posted: 14 Apr 2007, 5:56 am    Post subject: Re: Correct definition of ephebophilia? Reply with quote

glbtq wrote:
Dear Hueyy,

Thanks for the posting.

The term ephebophilia was coined to refer to males, using Latin masculine forms. Ephebe (Latin, from the Greek ephebos) is a male youth. However, if it has been used more broadly, perhaps our definition should reflect that broader application.

Claude


Thanks for that claude,
I realise that the modern definition is somewhat unclear. Found this in the 'Cambridge Online'

" The nature of ephebophilia is unresolved, and a variety of perspectives are held. Some regard ephebophilia as a milder form of pedophilia in which the object of attraction is closer to the normal age of a sexual partner than with a true pedophile. Others regard ephebophilia as resulting from chronophilia, wherein the chronophile's sexual/erotic age is discordant with his or her actual chronological age but concordant with the age of the partner. Yet another theory characterizes it by a refusal to age psychologically and a desire to reconnect with one's youth."

Hmm, it seems a little mixed up these days. A word in transition perhaps.
Well it did happen to a certain other, now famous, though more simplistic, and widely used word. ;-)
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